Hello, this is Who Sits With You Now, and I am Joanna. Before we start, I want to say that today's conversation is about the loss of a child, so please take care of yourself. Ramon and Cielo lost their son Gabriel in 2019. He was nine. In the months after, Ramon went back to his office in two weeks and worked late every night. Cielo did not leave the house for three months. Everyone around them, family, friends, their priest, quietly expected the marriage to end, because that is what people say happens. It did not end. It nearly did. Tonight they tell me, slowly and with a lot of pauses, how two people can grieve the same child in completely different ways and still find their way back to the same table. You are listening on Witspeak Podcasts.