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Why the rabbis argued, and kept both answers

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Both are the words of the living God

The first episode starts with the thing that surprised Ezequiel most when he opened a page of Talmud: it preserves the arguments it rejected. He introduces the two great schools, Hillel and Shammai, and reads the famous line that both positions are words of the living God.

  • How a page of Talmud is laid out, described for someone who has never seen one
  • Hillel and Shammai on the lamp, the bride and the convert
  • Rabbi Miriam Szwarc on why a tradition would keep its minority opinions
  • What this does to a lawyer's idea of being right

Next week: forgiving someone who has not asked, with a Holocaust survivor's granddaughter.

Transcript
Shalom, hola, and welcome to Questions at the Shabbat Table. I am Ezequiel Rosenfeld. I grew up in a Jewish family in Buenos Aires that went to synagogue twice a year, and at 34, for reasons I will get to, I sat down with a page of Talmud and could not get up. This show is that page, opened for anyone. One question, one text, one guest, 35 minutes. Today, the thing that shocked me first. The Talmud records the arguments it lost. It keeps the wrong answers next to the right ones, and sometimes says both are the words of the living God. As a lawyer, that broke my brain a little. Rabbi Miriam Szwarc joins me to explain why a tradition would do that on purpose. You are listening on Witspeak Podcasts.
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